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Who Is The Earthly “Ruler” of Daniel 7:13,14?
“And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth.” -- Matthew 28:18
The above scripture tells us that Jesus received all authority when he went to heaven, over heaven and earth. This we know occurred in the first century when he ascended to heaven and sat on God’s throne. There are also numerous scriptures that back this point up.
However, Daniel 7:13,14 tells us about a kingdom that is going to be set up over the earth with righteous rulers. This kingdom is set up sometime later from the kingdom established in heaven in the first century with Jesus as ruler.
Therefore, if that is the case, then we must ask ourselves the question: who is the ruler spoken of in Daniel 7:13,14 that speaks about someone receiving kingly authority over the earth during the time of the wicked small horns’ destructive advances toward the holy ones who are also to receive authority in God’s kingdom, too, in the last days. Daniel 7:7,8,11,12,18,20,21,22,24,25,26,27
The ruler of this kingdom of Daniel 7:13,14 cannot, and I repeat CANNOT be Jesus Christ because he has already received all authority over heaven and earth in the first century. Whereas the events of Daniel the 7th chapter show us a future kingdom established in righteousness FOREVER that controls the earth. It also shows us the presence of the wicked small horn and his attack on God’s people, the holy ones, in the last days.
(Daniel 7:18) 18 But the holy ones of the Supreme One will receive the kingdom, and they will take possession of the kingdom for time indefinite, even for time indefinite upon times indefinite.’
(Daniel 7:22) 22 until the Ancient of Days came and judgment itself was given in favor of the holy ones of the Supreme One, and the definite time arrived that the holy ones took possession of the kingdom itself.
(Daniel 7:27) 27 “‘And the kingdom and the rulership and the grandeur of the kingdoms under all the heavens were given to the people who are the holy ones of the Supreme One. Their kingdom is an indefinitely lasting kingdom, and all the rulerships will serve and obey even them.’
This kingdom is clearly one set up in the last days because it takes over earth’s affairs in righteousness. And, we know that has not happened today, as of yet.
I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
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Who Is The "Ruler" of Daniel 7:13,14?
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Re: Who Is The "Ruler" of Daniel 7:13,14?
Please consider,
(Daniel 7:7-8) 7 “After this I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! a fourth beast, fearsome and terrible and unusually strong. And it had teeth of iron, big ones. It was devouring and crushing, and what was left it was treading down with its feet. And it was something different from all the [other] beasts that were prior to it, and it had ten horns. 8 I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things.
Also consider,
(Daniel 7:20-22) 20 and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other [horn] that came up and before which three fell, even that horn that had eyes and a mouth speaking grandiose things and the appearance of which was bigger than that of its fellows. 21 “I kept on beholding when that very horn made war upon the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and judgment itself was given in favor of the holy ones of the Supreme One, and the definite time arrived that the holy ones took possession of the kingdom itself.
After reading these verses above, we have to ask ourselves, are these events of the past or are they events of the future yet to happen? Have we seen the appearance of the small horn that has eyes like eyes of a man that speaks grandiose things? Has this horn attacked the holy ones, made war against them so far? Because it’s only after this war with the holy ones of the supreme one that the definite time arrived for the holy ones to take possession of the kingdom. Daniel 7:8,20-22
(Daniel 7:11-12) 11 “I kept on beholding at that time because of the sound of the grandiose words that the horn was speaking; I kept on beholding until the beast was killed and its body was destroyed and it was given to the burning fire. 12 But as for the rest of the beasts, their rulerships were taken away, and there was a lengthening in life given to them for a time and a season.
When have we seen these events of verses 11 and 12 take place? Especially the part where earthly rulerships of the beast were taken away by God, and the fourth beast, which was said to be fearsome and terrible and unusually strong was completely destroyed and thrown into the burning fire by God almighty, also? When have we ever seen these events happen?
It is clear that the 7th chapter of Daniel is an end time prophecy, destined to be fulfilled in the last days. All the events of chapter 7 are future events of our time…
I will await for your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah
(Daniel 7:7-8) 7 “After this I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! a fourth beast, fearsome and terrible and unusually strong. And it had teeth of iron, big ones. It was devouring and crushing, and what was left it was treading down with its feet. And it was something different from all the [other] beasts that were prior to it, and it had ten horns. 8 I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things.
Also consider,
(Daniel 7:20-22) 20 and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other [horn] that came up and before which three fell, even that horn that had eyes and a mouth speaking grandiose things and the appearance of which was bigger than that of its fellows. 21 “I kept on beholding when that very horn made war upon the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came and judgment itself was given in favor of the holy ones of the Supreme One, and the definite time arrived that the holy ones took possession of the kingdom itself.
After reading these verses above, we have to ask ourselves, are these events of the past or are they events of the future yet to happen? Have we seen the appearance of the small horn that has eyes like eyes of a man that speaks grandiose things? Has this horn attacked the holy ones, made war against them so far? Because it’s only after this war with the holy ones of the supreme one that the definite time arrived for the holy ones to take possession of the kingdom. Daniel 7:8,20-22
(Daniel 7:11-12) 11 “I kept on beholding at that time because of the sound of the grandiose words that the horn was speaking; I kept on beholding until the beast was killed and its body was destroyed and it was given to the burning fire. 12 But as for the rest of the beasts, their rulerships were taken away, and there was a lengthening in life given to them for a time and a season.
When have we seen these events of verses 11 and 12 take place? Especially the part where earthly rulerships of the beast were taken away by God, and the fourth beast, which was said to be fearsome and terrible and unusually strong was completely destroyed and thrown into the burning fire by God almighty, also? When have we ever seen these events happen?
It is clear that the 7th chapter of Daniel is an end time prophecy, destined to be fulfilled in the last days. All the events of chapter 7 are future events of our time…
I will await for your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah
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Re: Who Is The "Ruler" of Daniel 7:13,14?
Additionally please consider,
(Daniel 7:14) 14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.
The ruler of this kingdom is said to have a rulership that lasts forever and one that will not pass away, ever. Again, this cannot be the rulership of Jesus Christ, because we know Jesus’ rulership does end when he hands the kingdom over to his God and father, Jehovah as shown at 1 Corinthians 15:24.
Also we can see clearly that this rulership is strictly an earthly rulership and not necessarily a heavenly rulership where “peoples”, “national groups” and “languages” are subject to this kingdom.
We see the same point shown in Daniel 2:44,
(Daniel 2:44) 44 “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
In this verse, we also see the point made that this kingdom will never be brought to ruin and will not be passed on to any other “peoples”. This clearly means this is an earthly kingdom being discussed since he adds that no other “peoples” possess this kingdom, and this kingdom lasts forever.
This earthly kingdom fulfills the Davidic promise of 2 Samuel 7:12-16, where this earthly ruler rules forever on earth just as the people of Judaism have believed and look forward to for many centuries now. This earthly ruler, different from Jesus Christ who rules from the heavens, will rule on earth forever more, for all eternity in righteousness along with the holy ones of the supreme one. Daniel 7:18,22,27.
Then too, consider,
(Psalm 89:27) 27 Also, I myself shall place him as firstborn, The most high of the kings of the earth.
This earthly ruler will become what Adam would have been as God’s firstborn on earth, ruler of all the kings of the earth. He will be Adam’s replacement and rule for all eternity in righteousness, on earth.
I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah007
(Daniel 7:14) 14 And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.
The ruler of this kingdom is said to have a rulership that lasts forever and one that will not pass away, ever. Again, this cannot be the rulership of Jesus Christ, because we know Jesus’ rulership does end when he hands the kingdom over to his God and father, Jehovah as shown at 1 Corinthians 15:24.
Also we can see clearly that this rulership is strictly an earthly rulership and not necessarily a heavenly rulership where “peoples”, “national groups” and “languages” are subject to this kingdom.
We see the same point shown in Daniel 2:44,
(Daniel 2:44) 44 “And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
In this verse, we also see the point made that this kingdom will never be brought to ruin and will not be passed on to any other “peoples”. This clearly means this is an earthly kingdom being discussed since he adds that no other “peoples” possess this kingdom, and this kingdom lasts forever.
This earthly kingdom fulfills the Davidic promise of 2 Samuel 7:12-16, where this earthly ruler rules forever on earth just as the people of Judaism have believed and look forward to for many centuries now. This earthly ruler, different from Jesus Christ who rules from the heavens, will rule on earth forever more, for all eternity in righteousness along with the holy ones of the supreme one. Daniel 7:18,22,27.
Then too, consider,
(Psalm 89:27) 27 Also, I myself shall place him as firstborn, The most high of the kings of the earth.
This earthly ruler will become what Adam would have been as God’s firstborn on earth, ruler of all the kings of the earth. He will be Adam’s replacement and rule for all eternity in righteousness, on earth.
I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
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Re: Who Is The "Ruler" of Daniel 7:13,14?
Daniel 7:14
New International Version
He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
New Living Translation
He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language would obey him. His rule is eternal--it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed.
English Standard Version
And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.
New American Standard Bible
"And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.
King James Bible
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Christian Standard Bible
He was given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom; so that those of every people, nation, and language should serve him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will not be destroyed.
Good News Translation
He was given authority, honor, and royal power, so that the people of all nations, races, and languages would serve him. His authority would last forever, and his kingdom would never end.
We all know Jesus gained his kingdom in the 1st century when he was resurrected to heaven, where he was given all authority and power over all the earth and the heavens. Matthew 28:18
Whereas, it is clear all of the above verses show us that the son of man was given his kingdom in the last days, right after the wicked attack of the small horn. This is a difference of over 2000 years, so why are we confusing these two kingdoms when they are separate and distinct. One ruler rules from the heavens and one ruler rules from the earth.
In Daniel the 7th chapter, we see the small horns’ activity is limited to 3 ½ years of attack or 42 months, which tells us these are the fulfillment of the events of the book of Revelation in the end times upon the holy ones of the supreme one. Compare Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5
As we look at those scriptures cited above, it clearly tells us that the son of man is receiving a kingdom during these times, after the 42 months of attack noted above. He is accompanied by other ones called holy ones of the supreme one who will also take possession of this kingdom. Therefore, this is a different kingdom from the one that Jesus Christ has been given in the 1st century. This kingdom has not been established yet on earth, it is a future kingdom. This kingdom is clearly an everlasting kingdom that is never brought to ruin and the rulers in this kingdom are permanent rulers, forever. This is very different from the kingdom that Jesus possesses in that he does not rule forever and ever. Daniel 7:18,21,22,27 1 Corinthians 15:24
2 Samuel 7:13, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 2:44 all show us that this earthly kingdom is permanent and lasts forever on earth.
Therefore, it is clear all of the events of Daniel the 7th chapter lies before us in the future…these horrific events we speak of above showing the coming attack of the small horn. After which Bible prophecy tells us the promised Elijah or the promised Davidic heir will lead mankind into pure worship in our immediate future forever more, in righteousness. 2 Samuel 7:12-16; Malachi 4:5,6; Matthew 17:10,11
I repeat, 2 Samuel 7:13, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 2:44 all show us that this earthly kingdom is permanent and lasts forever on earth…much different from the rulership of Jesus in the heavens.
…I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah007
New International Version
He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
New Living Translation
He was given authority, honor, and sovereignty over all the nations of the world, so that people of every race and nation and language would obey him. His rule is eternal--it will never end. His kingdom will never be destroyed.
English Standard Version
And to him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed.
New American Standard Bible
"And to Him was given dominion, Glory and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations and men of every language Might serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion Which will not pass away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed.
King James Bible
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Christian Standard Bible
He was given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom; so that those of every people, nation, and language should serve him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will not be destroyed.
Good News Translation
He was given authority, honor, and royal power, so that the people of all nations, races, and languages would serve him. His authority would last forever, and his kingdom would never end.
We all know Jesus gained his kingdom in the 1st century when he was resurrected to heaven, where he was given all authority and power over all the earth and the heavens. Matthew 28:18
Whereas, it is clear all of the above verses show us that the son of man was given his kingdom in the last days, right after the wicked attack of the small horn. This is a difference of over 2000 years, so why are we confusing these two kingdoms when they are separate and distinct. One ruler rules from the heavens and one ruler rules from the earth.
In Daniel the 7th chapter, we see the small horns’ activity is limited to 3 ½ years of attack or 42 months, which tells us these are the fulfillment of the events of the book of Revelation in the end times upon the holy ones of the supreme one. Compare Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5
As we look at those scriptures cited above, it clearly tells us that the son of man is receiving a kingdom during these times, after the 42 months of attack noted above. He is accompanied by other ones called holy ones of the supreme one who will also take possession of this kingdom. Therefore, this is a different kingdom from the one that Jesus Christ has been given in the 1st century. This kingdom has not been established yet on earth, it is a future kingdom. This kingdom is clearly an everlasting kingdom that is never brought to ruin and the rulers in this kingdom are permanent rulers, forever. This is very different from the kingdom that Jesus possesses in that he does not rule forever and ever. Daniel 7:18,21,22,27 1 Corinthians 15:24
2 Samuel 7:13, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 2:44 all show us that this earthly kingdom is permanent and lasts forever on earth.
Therefore, it is clear all of the events of Daniel the 7th chapter lies before us in the future…these horrific events we speak of above showing the coming attack of the small horn. After which Bible prophecy tells us the promised Elijah or the promised Davidic heir will lead mankind into pure worship in our immediate future forever more, in righteousness. 2 Samuel 7:12-16; Malachi 4:5,6; Matthew 17:10,11
I repeat, 2 Samuel 7:13, Isaiah 9:7, and Daniel 2:44 all show us that this earthly kingdom is permanent and lasts forever on earth…much different from the rulership of Jesus in the heavens.
…I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah007
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Re: Who Is The "Ruler" of Daniel 7:13,14?
To better understand the differences in these two kingdoms (heavenly and earthly), you have to go back in time. For many many years before Jesus came to the earth, the Jewish nation was taught by prophecy that a righteous ruler was coming from their nation to establish an earthly kingdom and rulership over the earth in righteousness forever. (Jeremiah 23:5,6; Zechariah 9:10) This was taught in many many prophecies in Hebrew text before Jesus came to earth.
Therefore, when Jesus came to earth and introduced the idea of going to heaven and flatly stated that he would be going to heaven to rule there with his faithful disciples, this was a completely new idea to the Jewish nation. This new idea introduced by Jesus was completely foreign to the minds of the Jewish people. They had never heard of such before this. This means that all of those Hebrew prophecies that spoke of rulership on earth that they were familiar with as shown in the first 39 books of the Bible all clearly taught that this kingdom was to be an earthly kingdom that was to last forever in righteousness. So, when we quote from any of those Hebrew prophecies, be it 2 Samuel 7:12-16 or Isaiah 9:7 or Daniel 2:44 or Daniel 7:14,27, we cannot say they apply to a heavenly kingdom. This is because the writer of those prophecies never intended the reader to think that this earthly kingdom referred to a heavenly rulership. They all taught that this would be an eternal earthly rulership.
This explains why the Jewish nation stumbled over what Jesus taught on this matter, since he often spoke of and taught about a heavenly rulership, something very strange and foreign to their minds.
This also explains clearly why at John 6:15 Jesus flatly refused to accept kingship from the Jewish nation because he realized they were thinking this would be an earthly kingdom as they were taught. But he knew his kingship was strictly a heavenly rulership.
Therefore, we today, when we quote from any of these Hebrew prophecies and attempt to say that they refer to heavenly rulership, when in fact this idea would be foreign to ancient Israel before Jesus, we are stretching the meaning of what the verses were originally talking about, which would be an eternal earthly kingdom only.
The coming ruler spoken of in Daniel 7:13,14 therefore, is not coming as a replacement for Jesus’ heavenly rulership, of course, but refers to the kingdom that would have come upon the shoulders of the patriarchal head Adam had he remained faithful, an eternal earthly kingship as shown at Psalms 89:27. This person then would become God’s firstborn earthly human son and leader of the earth.
In addition to becoming the foretold Elijah who was to restore all things that was to come before the great and fear inspiring day of Jehovah, he would also become the Davidic promised fulfillment of 2 Samuel 7:12-16. (Malachi 4:5,6; Matthew 17:10,11) Then too, he would also become the Spirit of Truth that Jesus said would lead all his people into all truth and would declare the future to them. Jesus also said this one would take from what is mine, meaning he would benefit from Jesus’ victory over Satan’s world and receive all of the blessings inherent in the Mosaic law that Jesus had gained for himself by keeping the law of God perfectly without sin. All of these blessings that would normally go to Jesus would be given to the one called The Spirit of Truth so that this one would become the chosen righteous ruler of the earth. John 16:13,14
Keep in mind, all of these Hebrew prophecies that speak of righteous rulership on the earth, all refer to an everlasting kingdom government that will rule the earth in righteousness forever. This kingdom is definitely a permanent kingdom and this is what the nation of Israel was taught before Jesus came. In fact, to this day the Jewish nation of our time is looking for that righteous ruler to rule upon the earth, even now. Naturally, to accommodate this viewpoint, many Christian religions of our time teach that Jesus is coming back to the earth to set up an earthly kingdom and throne where he will rule upon the earth to fulfill these Hebrew prophecies. But, the Bible does not teach that Jesus is coming back to earth to be a man and rule on earth eternally. It does not teach that. As John 17:4,5 tells us, Jesus longs to live his life in heavenly glory with his father. He does not want to live on earth with mankind.
When we examine Daniel 7:25 and compare it with Revelation 13:5, we can see that the Holy Ones of the Supreme One come under attack for a specific period of time, limited to 42 months. Jesus referred to this specific period of time of trouble as the “Gentile Times”, as Luke 21:24 shows. This means that the kingdom of Daniel 7:14 is only given to God’s people on earth AFTER, after this special time of persecution has passed. This is shown for us clearly in Daniel 7:18,22,27. Also Daniel 7:13 tells us this kingdom is awarded to the Son Of Man AFTER, after the 4th fearsome beast has been completely destroyed by God Almighty himself, as Daniel 7:11,12 shows. Surely, no one would want to say that Jesus is not king now and won’t be king until these events occur in the future. Incidentally, this correct understanding of prophecy helps to kill the false doctrine of 1914 since these events we speak of at Daniel 7:11,12 or the 42 months of trampling of Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5 have not occurred yet, even to this day…these are all future events, and surely no one today would say that Jesus is still not king and won’t be until after this future event.
…I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah
Therefore, when Jesus came to earth and introduced the idea of going to heaven and flatly stated that he would be going to heaven to rule there with his faithful disciples, this was a completely new idea to the Jewish nation. This new idea introduced by Jesus was completely foreign to the minds of the Jewish people. They had never heard of such before this. This means that all of those Hebrew prophecies that spoke of rulership on earth that they were familiar with as shown in the first 39 books of the Bible all clearly taught that this kingdom was to be an earthly kingdom that was to last forever in righteousness. So, when we quote from any of those Hebrew prophecies, be it 2 Samuel 7:12-16 or Isaiah 9:7 or Daniel 2:44 or Daniel 7:14,27, we cannot say they apply to a heavenly kingdom. This is because the writer of those prophecies never intended the reader to think that this earthly kingdom referred to a heavenly rulership. They all taught that this would be an eternal earthly rulership.
This explains why the Jewish nation stumbled over what Jesus taught on this matter, since he often spoke of and taught about a heavenly rulership, something very strange and foreign to their minds.
This also explains clearly why at John 6:15 Jesus flatly refused to accept kingship from the Jewish nation because he realized they were thinking this would be an earthly kingdom as they were taught. But he knew his kingship was strictly a heavenly rulership.
Therefore, we today, when we quote from any of these Hebrew prophecies and attempt to say that they refer to heavenly rulership, when in fact this idea would be foreign to ancient Israel before Jesus, we are stretching the meaning of what the verses were originally talking about, which would be an eternal earthly kingdom only.
The coming ruler spoken of in Daniel 7:13,14 therefore, is not coming as a replacement for Jesus’ heavenly rulership, of course, but refers to the kingdom that would have come upon the shoulders of the patriarchal head Adam had he remained faithful, an eternal earthly kingship as shown at Psalms 89:27. This person then would become God’s firstborn earthly human son and leader of the earth.
In addition to becoming the foretold Elijah who was to restore all things that was to come before the great and fear inspiring day of Jehovah, he would also become the Davidic promised fulfillment of 2 Samuel 7:12-16. (Malachi 4:5,6; Matthew 17:10,11) Then too, he would also become the Spirit of Truth that Jesus said would lead all his people into all truth and would declare the future to them. Jesus also said this one would take from what is mine, meaning he would benefit from Jesus’ victory over Satan’s world and receive all of the blessings inherent in the Mosaic law that Jesus had gained for himself by keeping the law of God perfectly without sin. All of these blessings that would normally go to Jesus would be given to the one called The Spirit of Truth so that this one would become the chosen righteous ruler of the earth. John 16:13,14
Keep in mind, all of these Hebrew prophecies that speak of righteous rulership on the earth, all refer to an everlasting kingdom government that will rule the earth in righteousness forever. This kingdom is definitely a permanent kingdom and this is what the nation of Israel was taught before Jesus came. In fact, to this day the Jewish nation of our time is looking for that righteous ruler to rule upon the earth, even now. Naturally, to accommodate this viewpoint, many Christian religions of our time teach that Jesus is coming back to the earth to set up an earthly kingdom and throne where he will rule upon the earth to fulfill these Hebrew prophecies. But, the Bible does not teach that Jesus is coming back to earth to be a man and rule on earth eternally. It does not teach that. As John 17:4,5 tells us, Jesus longs to live his life in heavenly glory with his father. He does not want to live on earth with mankind.
When we examine Daniel 7:25 and compare it with Revelation 13:5, we can see that the Holy Ones of the Supreme One come under attack for a specific period of time, limited to 42 months. Jesus referred to this specific period of time of trouble as the “Gentile Times”, as Luke 21:24 shows. This means that the kingdom of Daniel 7:14 is only given to God’s people on earth AFTER, after this special time of persecution has passed. This is shown for us clearly in Daniel 7:18,22,27. Also Daniel 7:13 tells us this kingdom is awarded to the Son Of Man AFTER, after the 4th fearsome beast has been completely destroyed by God Almighty himself, as Daniel 7:11,12 shows. Surely, no one would want to say that Jesus is not king now and won’t be king until these events occur in the future. Incidentally, this correct understanding of prophecy helps to kill the false doctrine of 1914 since these events we speak of at Daniel 7:11,12 or the 42 months of trampling of Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:5 have not occurred yet, even to this day…these are all future events, and surely no one today would say that Jesus is still not king and won’t be until after this future event.
…I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
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Re: Who Is The "Ruler" of Daniel 7:13,14?
Hello everyone,
In years past, I noticed the Watchtower Society when explaining Daniel the 7th chapter always placed this prophecies’ fulfillment as happening in the past. They had the events of this prophecy as occurring some years ago. But, as I began to study it more deeply, I began to see this was not true.
If there is someone on this discussion board that thinks they can prove that a single verse in the 7th chapter of Daniel can be shown to be fulfilled in the past I would appreciate it if they would point this out to me. My personal opinion is that this entire chapter is about future events.
…I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah
In years past, I noticed the Watchtower Society when explaining Daniel the 7th chapter always placed this prophecies’ fulfillment as happening in the past. They had the events of this prophecy as occurring some years ago. But, as I began to study it more deeply, I began to see this was not true.
If there is someone on this discussion board that thinks they can prove that a single verse in the 7th chapter of Daniel can be shown to be fulfilled in the past I would appreciate it if they would point this out to me. My personal opinion is that this entire chapter is about future events.
…I will await your thoughts.
Agape,
work4jah